Post by Okwes on Jun 14, 2007 10:52:39 GMT -5
Deganawidah: The Two Serpents - Hodenosaunee
When Deganawidah was leaving the Indians in the Bay of Quinte in Ontario, he
told the Indian people that they would face a time of great suffering. They
would distrust their leaders and the principles of peace of the League, and
a great white serpent was to come upon the Iroquois, and that for a time it
would intermingle with the Indian serpent as a friend. This serpent would in
time become so powerful that it would attempt to destroy the Indian, and the
serpent is described as choking the life's blood out of the Indian people.
Deganawidah told the Indians that they would be in such a terrible state at
this point that all hope would seem to be lost, and he told them that when
things looked their darkest a red serpent would come from the north and
approach the white serpent, which would be terrified, and upon seeing the
red serpent he would release the Indian, who would fall to the ground almost
like a helpless child, and the white serpent would turn all its attention to
the red serpent. The bewilderment would cause the white serpent to accept
the red one momentarily. The white serpent would be stunned and take part of
the red serpent and accept him. Then there is a heated argument and a fight.
And then the Indian revives and crawls toward the land of the hilly country,
and then he would assemble his people together, and they would renew their
faith and the principles of peace that Deganawidah had established. There
would at the same time exist among the Indians a great love and forgiveness
for his brother, and in this gathering would come streams from all over -
not only the Iroquois but from all over - and they would gather in this
hilly country, and they would renew their friendship. And Deganawidah said
they would remain neutral in this fight between the white and red serpents.
At the time they were watching the two serpents locked in this battle, a
great message would come to them, which would make them ever so humble, and
when they become that humble, they will be waiting for a young leader, an
Indian boy, possibly in his teens, who would be a choice seer. Nobody knows
who he is or where he comes from, but he will be given great power, and
would be heard by thousands, and he would give them the guidance and the
hope to refrain from going back to their land and he would be the accepted
leader. And Deganawidah said that they will gather in the land of the hilly
country, beneath the branches of an elm tree, and they should burn tobacco
and call upon Deganawidah by name when facing the darkest hours, and he will
return.
Deganawidah said that as the choice seer speaks to the Indians that number
as the blades of grass, and he would be heard by all at the same time, and
as the Indians are gathered watching the fight, they notice from the south a
black serpent coming from the sea, and he is described as dripping with salt
water, and as he stands there, he rests for a spell to get his breath, all
the time watching to the north to the land where the white and red serpents
are fighting.
Deganawidah said that the battle between the white and the red serpents
opened very slowly but would then become so violent that the mountains would
crack and the rivers would boil and the fish would turn up on their bellies.
He said that there would be no leaves on the trees in that area. There would
be no grass, and that strange bugs and beetles would crawl from the ground
and attack both serpents, and he said that a great heat would cause the
stench of death to sicken both serpents.
And then, as the boy seer is watching this fight, the red serpent reaches
around the back of the white serpent and pulls from him a hair which is
carried toward the south by a great wind into the waiting hands of the black
serpent, and as the black serpent studies this hair, it suddenly turns into
a woman, a white woman who tells him things that he knows to be true but he
wants to hear them again. When this white woman finishes telling these
things, he takes her and gently places her on a rock with great love and
respect, and then he becomes infuriated at what he has heard, so he makes a
beeline for the north, and he enters the battle between the red and white
serpents with such speed and anger that he defeats the two serpents, who
have already been battle weary.
When he finishes, he stand on the chest of the white serpent, and he boasts
and puts his chest out like he's the conqueror, and he looks for another
serpent to conquer. He looks to the land of the hilly country and then sees
the Indian standing with his arms folded and looking ever so noble that he
knows that this Indian is not the one to fight. The next direction that he
will face will be eastward and at that time he will be momentarily blinded
by a light that is many times brighter than the sun. The light will be
coming from the east to the west over the water, and when the black serpent
regains his sight, he becomes terrified and makes a beeline for the sea. He
dips into the sea and swims away in a southerly direction, and shall never
again be seen by the Indians.
The white serpent revives, and he too sees the light, and he makes a feeble
attempt to gather himself and go toward that light. A portion of the white
serpent refuses to remain but instead makes its way toward the land of the
hilly country, and there he will join the Indian People with a great love
like that of a lost brother. The rest of the white serpent would go to the
sea and dip into the sea and would be lost out of sight for a spell. Then
suddenly the white serpent would appear again on the top of the water and he
would be slowly swimming toward the light. Deganawidah said that the white
serpent would never again be troublesome to the Indian People. The red
serpent would revive and he would shiver with great fear when he sees that
light. He would crawl to the north and leave a bloody, shaky trail
northward, and he would never be seen again by the Indians. Deganawidah said
as this light approaches that he would be that light, and he would return to
his Indian People, and when he returns, the Indian People would be a greater
nation than they had ever been before.
From Native American Prophecies by Scott Peterson
Leon Shenandoah Speaks. Supreme Sachem of the Iroquois, Successor to the
Original Tododaho, Speaker of the Hotinoshonee (Haudenosaunee) Confederacy.
From Wisdomkeepers by Steve Wall and Harvey Arden
It's prophesied in our Instructions that the end of the world will be near
when the trees start dying from the tops down. That's what the maples are
doing today. Our Instructions say the time will come when there will be no
corn, when nothing will grow in the garden, when water will be filthy and
unfit to drink. And then a great monster will rise up from the water and
destroy mankind. One of the names of that monster is "the sickness that eats
you up inside" - like diabetes or cancer or AIDS. Maybe AIDS is the monster.
It's coming. It's already here.
Our prophet Handsome Lake told of it in the 1700s. He saw Four Beings, like
four angels, coming from the Four Directions. They told him what would
happen, how there would be diseases we'd never heard of before. You will see
many tears in this country. Then a great wind will come, a wind that will
make a hurricane seem like a whisper. It will cleanse the earth and return
it to its original state. That will be the punishment for what we've done to
the Creation.
When Deganawidah was leaving the Indians in the Bay of Quinte in Ontario, he
told the Indian people that they would face a time of great suffering. They
would distrust their leaders and the principles of peace of the League, and
a great white serpent was to come upon the Iroquois, and that for a time it
would intermingle with the Indian serpent as a friend. This serpent would in
time become so powerful that it would attempt to destroy the Indian, and the
serpent is described as choking the life's blood out of the Indian people.
Deganawidah told the Indians that they would be in such a terrible state at
this point that all hope would seem to be lost, and he told them that when
things looked their darkest a red serpent would come from the north and
approach the white serpent, which would be terrified, and upon seeing the
red serpent he would release the Indian, who would fall to the ground almost
like a helpless child, and the white serpent would turn all its attention to
the red serpent. The bewilderment would cause the white serpent to accept
the red one momentarily. The white serpent would be stunned and take part of
the red serpent and accept him. Then there is a heated argument and a fight.
And then the Indian revives and crawls toward the land of the hilly country,
and then he would assemble his people together, and they would renew their
faith and the principles of peace that Deganawidah had established. There
would at the same time exist among the Indians a great love and forgiveness
for his brother, and in this gathering would come streams from all over -
not only the Iroquois but from all over - and they would gather in this
hilly country, and they would renew their friendship. And Deganawidah said
they would remain neutral in this fight between the white and red serpents.
At the time they were watching the two serpents locked in this battle, a
great message would come to them, which would make them ever so humble, and
when they become that humble, they will be waiting for a young leader, an
Indian boy, possibly in his teens, who would be a choice seer. Nobody knows
who he is or where he comes from, but he will be given great power, and
would be heard by thousands, and he would give them the guidance and the
hope to refrain from going back to their land and he would be the accepted
leader. And Deganawidah said that they will gather in the land of the hilly
country, beneath the branches of an elm tree, and they should burn tobacco
and call upon Deganawidah by name when facing the darkest hours, and he will
return.
Deganawidah said that as the choice seer speaks to the Indians that number
as the blades of grass, and he would be heard by all at the same time, and
as the Indians are gathered watching the fight, they notice from the south a
black serpent coming from the sea, and he is described as dripping with salt
water, and as he stands there, he rests for a spell to get his breath, all
the time watching to the north to the land where the white and red serpents
are fighting.
Deganawidah said that the battle between the white and the red serpents
opened very slowly but would then become so violent that the mountains would
crack and the rivers would boil and the fish would turn up on their bellies.
He said that there would be no leaves on the trees in that area. There would
be no grass, and that strange bugs and beetles would crawl from the ground
and attack both serpents, and he said that a great heat would cause the
stench of death to sicken both serpents.
And then, as the boy seer is watching this fight, the red serpent reaches
around the back of the white serpent and pulls from him a hair which is
carried toward the south by a great wind into the waiting hands of the black
serpent, and as the black serpent studies this hair, it suddenly turns into
a woman, a white woman who tells him things that he knows to be true but he
wants to hear them again. When this white woman finishes telling these
things, he takes her and gently places her on a rock with great love and
respect, and then he becomes infuriated at what he has heard, so he makes a
beeline for the north, and he enters the battle between the red and white
serpents with such speed and anger that he defeats the two serpents, who
have already been battle weary.
When he finishes, he stand on the chest of the white serpent, and he boasts
and puts his chest out like he's the conqueror, and he looks for another
serpent to conquer. He looks to the land of the hilly country and then sees
the Indian standing with his arms folded and looking ever so noble that he
knows that this Indian is not the one to fight. The next direction that he
will face will be eastward and at that time he will be momentarily blinded
by a light that is many times brighter than the sun. The light will be
coming from the east to the west over the water, and when the black serpent
regains his sight, he becomes terrified and makes a beeline for the sea. He
dips into the sea and swims away in a southerly direction, and shall never
again be seen by the Indians.
The white serpent revives, and he too sees the light, and he makes a feeble
attempt to gather himself and go toward that light. A portion of the white
serpent refuses to remain but instead makes its way toward the land of the
hilly country, and there he will join the Indian People with a great love
like that of a lost brother. The rest of the white serpent would go to the
sea and dip into the sea and would be lost out of sight for a spell. Then
suddenly the white serpent would appear again on the top of the water and he
would be slowly swimming toward the light. Deganawidah said that the white
serpent would never again be troublesome to the Indian People. The red
serpent would revive and he would shiver with great fear when he sees that
light. He would crawl to the north and leave a bloody, shaky trail
northward, and he would never be seen again by the Indians. Deganawidah said
as this light approaches that he would be that light, and he would return to
his Indian People, and when he returns, the Indian People would be a greater
nation than they had ever been before.
From Native American Prophecies by Scott Peterson
Leon Shenandoah Speaks. Supreme Sachem of the Iroquois, Successor to the
Original Tododaho, Speaker of the Hotinoshonee (Haudenosaunee) Confederacy.
From Wisdomkeepers by Steve Wall and Harvey Arden
It's prophesied in our Instructions that the end of the world will be near
when the trees start dying from the tops down. That's what the maples are
doing today. Our Instructions say the time will come when there will be no
corn, when nothing will grow in the garden, when water will be filthy and
unfit to drink. And then a great monster will rise up from the water and
destroy mankind. One of the names of that monster is "the sickness that eats
you up inside" - like diabetes or cancer or AIDS. Maybe AIDS is the monster.
It's coming. It's already here.
Our prophet Handsome Lake told of it in the 1700s. He saw Four Beings, like
four angels, coming from the Four Directions. They told him what would
happen, how there would be diseases we'd never heard of before. You will see
many tears in this country. Then a great wind will come, a wind that will
make a hurricane seem like a whisper. It will cleanse the earth and return
it to its original state. That will be the punishment for what we've done to
the Creation.